Log in

No account? Create an account

Previous Entry | Next Entry

Copied from my MySpace blog

One good thing about proposition 8...it will very quickly bring to focus the people who should not be friends with me, so I can remove them from my list before any permanent damage is done.

Let me explain to you why a straight Christian woman who has never actually been gay, thinks that it is a travesty and a streak of willful, violent ignorance that allows people continue to vote to ban gay marriage.

I have heard the argument that marriage is between man and woman. Well, see, Webster's dictionary doesn't define it that way. NO dictionary defines it that way. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say the reference point for that argument is the Bible. Well, guess what, folks? The Bible is a religious reference point. It is based on your faith, your religious faith. And was our country founded on the belief that we should all adopt one religion, and force it down every one elses throat? That people should be persecuted and punished if they don't agree with/fit into that religion? Was it? I don't think so. I think it was founded on the idea of religious FREEDOM. The idea that all religions would be acceptable, and that there would be separation of church and state and no ONE religion would be forced on ANYONE. Right? Well?! Am I right???


I know, it hurts, but go ahead and admit it. Yes, I am right. Excellent! Glad we have that out of the way.

If I am right, that means that you do not get to take definitions from your religious reference and force them on other people. Heck, let's go wild and crazy while we're at it, and point out that it ALSO MEANS that those self-same people should be protected by law from harassment, persecution and violence, even though they do not have the same moralistic beliefs as you. Know why??

That's RIGHT!

Because this country is based on the concept of RELIGIOUS. FREEDOM. And they have a right to not only believe they will NOT go to hell for falling in love with someone of the same sex, but also to believe in a God who wants them to be happy and live a long and fulfilling life in a committed and responsible relationship. Or to believe in NO GOD, and not give a shit what anyone thinks of them being in love with someone of the same sex. Or to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster who created midgets and pirates. Whatever floats their boat. Religious. Freedom.

If you want to ban gay marriage in your church? You just go right on ahead and take care of that, my friend! Make a big sign: GOD DOES NOT MARRY GAYS IN THIS CHURCH. I'm feeling pretty strongly that there won't be a line of gay people standing outside demanding entrance into your intolerant little knot of followers anyway, so it's all good. Practice your religion, enjoy it, have a long happy life and prosper.


When a gay person walks into a government office - like, say, a Justice of the Peace? And says, "Well, hello there! I am in love with this fine person by my side, and would like to declare to my community and my government that we are a couple and will be spending a lifetime side by side." - they should not, for any reason whatsoever, be turned away because your church doesn't like the idea. Because see....we're separating church and state. This over here? This is your church. And this over here? This is a government run agency handing out government certifications and licenses. One based in religion, one free of religious bias. That is how it is SUPPOSED. TO. BE.

And to be honest with you, how you can see it as any different to tell a person, "you, sir, may not marry that man because you are the same sex and my God thinks that is icky" than to say "you, madam, may not marry that man because he is white and you are black and my God says to keep the races separate" is beyond me. It just absolutely boggles my mind that you can see the prejudice in one situation, and miss it in another.

I digress.

I have heard the comment, "do you think it's right that my poor, innocent CHILDREN are being exposed to this inappropriate and disgusting display of open gay and transgendered sexuality, and that they are being forced to think about and understand these types of sexual situations?!?" And to me, this begs the question...how is seeing two gay men kissing any different than seeing a picture of Brad and Angelina draped all over each other? What is the difference between two women holding hands, laughing and in love, and any one of the romantic situations in 7th Heaven, Hannah Montana, The Cheetah Girl movies, or any other damn thing your child watches on TV? Why does it matter if the man in a couple is dressed as a woman? Why does that necessitate a different answer than "Well, they're holding hands because they're in love, sweetheart, and that's what people who are in love do." Why does there need to be ANYTHING "disgusting" or "inappropriate" discussed at all?

If you see a straight couple kissing in the street, do you explain the details of fornication to your five year old? No? Well then why the holy f^ck does that need to be different if the couple isn't a man and a woman, but a man and a man? WHY?!? Explain this to me, because your anti-logic is BAFFLING me!

And to further expound on that argument, do you know what? Hold on...sit down, hold on to your socks, because this might just knock them right off your feet. YES, I DO think it's right that my children be exposed to love of all different shapes and colors and mixes and styles. I not only think it's right that it's they're exposed to it, but I ENCOURAGE it and make sure that they see that I am open to and accepting of any healthy, loving relationship. Do you know why? Let me tell you.

Because when one of MY children gets old enough to have examined his/her sexuality and realizes...."Hey! I've never really been into the opposite sex. I've kind of always had a thing for the same sex!"....they will never have to worry that their mom is going to reject them, disown them, stop loving them. They will never have to worry about a God who is going to send them to hell for loving someone, unless they themselves have come to that conclusion in their own spiritual journey. They will not for a moment have to feel dirty, or ashamed, or like they have anything they have to hide or that they must now live in constant, daily fear and torture themselves with a secret truth. MY children will be able to love themselves for who and what they are, and know that *I* will love them for who and what they are, and that it's OK to be happy in life and to go for what makes you happy, and that God is not going to damn them to eternal suffering for doing what they thought with a pureness of heart was the right thing to do!

And more than that...when YOUR poor child comes to the realization that they have always been someone different than who they look like on the outside, and when the shame and fear of you and your religious views drives them to a suicidal level of depression, I can rest peacefully in the knowledge that MY child is not going to shun them. My child will not reassert their feelings of hopelessness, worthlessness, or make them feel sick about themselves. My child will reach out, tell them it's ok, hold their hand and be there to accept and love them. My child will encourage them to feel comfortable in their own skin, and to live life in a way that makes them happy. My child, unlike yours, will already have the knowledge of what unconditional love is truly about.

Gay marriage is not about porn. It's not the dirty XXX theater hidden in some seedy corner of your hometown. It's not about having butt sex on your front lawn. It's not about double headed dildos as the give-away toy in your box of Cheerios. It's not about assless chaps, bondage, leather, wearing women's underwear or a strap on, for f^cks sake....GROW UP, PEOPLE!!! Don't worry about what's going on in people's bedrooms which is none of your f^cking business anyway. Be proud of two people who have found each other, and like each other enough to want to commit a lifetime to one another, and to making one another happy.

It's not the gay people making it something taudry and dirty...it's YOU. And maybe...maybe? You should look a little closer at why you feel the need to do that. What secret little thought or fantasy lived in your heart, before someone made you think it was disgusting and dirty and you repressed it so far that if anyone else shows any sign of it, you have to become loud and abusive in order to distract anyone from seeing that you might just understand what it's like to want something that is outside of the "norm". Remove the plank from your own eye, before you remove the speck of dirt from your brothers. Just sayin'.

Oh, and hey...that last bit is a Biblical reference. For serious. Look it up. See, but I can do that because this is my BLOG, not a GOVERMENT POLICY BOOK.

PS: Just so you know...not every Christian God believes gays are going to hell. For what it's worth, the Catholic catechism says that people don't decide to become gay, they are born gay. Why? Because God has his reasons. Now, I will grant you...it does say gays are called to a life of chastity. But keep in mind that this is the Catholic church, and according to them EVERYBODY who is not trying to procreate is called to a life of chastity. Anyway, the catechism says the rest of us are called to be loving and supportive of gay folks, because their lives are especially trying and difficult.


How are you going to explain to God why you ignored His call? Hmmmm?? Think on *that* a while.


( 15 rays of sunshine — Be a ray of sunshine! )
Nov. 9th, 2008 03:09 am (UTC)
*smiles* I think I love you a little bit right now. . .

Here's some quotes by, of all people, Al Sharpton.

I am unilaterally opposed to any civil or human right being left to states' rights. That is a dangerous precedent. I think the federal government has the obligation to protect all citizens on a federal level. And if we start going back to states' rights, we're going back to pre-Civil War days, and I think that that, in its nature, is wrong.

Are we prepared to say gays and lesbians are less than human? If we're not prepared to say that, then how do we say that they should not have the same rights and human choices of anyone else?

My religion does not support homosexuality, but I do. I was asked why I was supporting and marching with the homosexuals in parades, when according to the church, homosexuality is a sin. I responded that God gave people free will. God gave people the right to choose - even to choose sin. That's why there is a heaven and a hell. So I will fight for people to have the right to go to hell if that's what they choose. I'm not here to judge. I was placed here to fight for justice for all people.

I believe that gays and lesbians deserve to have the same rights as heterosexuals. I believe that sexual orientation should not be an impediment in the workplace, in the housing marketplace, or in the adoption market. Just as I would fight for a black or Latino not to be discriminated against, I would fight equally for the rights of gays. I believe that gays and lesbians should have the right to adopt. Sexual orientation in no way matters when it comes to parenting - all children need is love.
Nov. 9th, 2008 01:32 pm (UTC)
I feel a bit weird lining up politically with Al Sharpton, since I believe he often swings too far, and...well. He just goes too far.


In this case, he is RIGHT. What the country is doing to the GLBT community is WRONG. It is a violation of their basic civil rights, and it is discrimination in it's most raw and basic form. I think so many people think discrimination/prejudice only refers to judging people by skin color. It doesn't. It refers to judging people based on any one of a myriad of factors, and then hurting them or taking away their rights based on those judgments. And in any form, especially at a government level, it's wrong.

Ah, it's the one political cause I would find worth arguing, the one issue I'd hold a sign and protest for, the one cause I would walk in a million man march over...whatever it took, I would do. Because it's so basically, intrinsically, WRONG.

Closed minds make me sad, friend. :o(
Nov. 9th, 2008 08:10 pm (UTC)
I know, I feel the same way about him.

Which, I think, is why it's all the more powerful.

This post makes me <3 you.
Nov. 9th, 2008 04:01 am (UTC)
You're preachin' to the choir, babe. I want to b-slap these people that are putting these things on the ballot and voting for them.
Nov. 9th, 2008 01:22 pm (UTC)
I was so sad when it went through in Ohio, but I was somewhat unsurprised. We had a lot of rural areas here, traditional, blue-collar areas...and that's a big change for them to make. There were still lots of minds to open, and I know it's not an over night thing. But to see it pass in California was just more than I could stomach. It's SOOOO disheartening.
Nov. 9th, 2008 04:38 am (UTC)
Nov. 9th, 2008 01:23 pm (UTC)
*giggles fondly*

I adore you, my Elle. Did I tell you I hung your postcard up at work?
Nov. 9th, 2008 07:17 am (UTC)
Yay! This is excellently put! I've already shared it on facebook, I hope that's okay.
Nov. 9th, 2008 01:23 pm (UTC)
Absolutely. Share it with the world...the more people who read it, the more chance a mind may open! :o)
Nov. 9th, 2008 08:14 am (UTC)

I need to share this with a gay friend who has been lamenting the lack of supportive Christians. Okay with you?
Nov. 9th, 2008 01:25 pm (UTC)
Perfectly fine with me. The GLBT community is NOT alone. They should know that Christian doesn't have to mean closed-minded and ignorant.
Nov. 9th, 2008 10:15 pm (UTC)
Absolutely right, on many many levels.

And thank goodness for liberal Christian denominations that allow/encourage their members to not only welcome gay people but also fight for their civil rights. If it weren't for these churches' non-traditional viewpoints, I wouldn't be able to call myself a Christian. I feel that strongly about this issue. Either you let me worship in an inclusive setting, or you won't find me in the pews...

Nov. 10th, 2008 11:50 am (UTC)
*nods agreement!*

I am a recovering Catholic, so I've been working on finding my own faith, and my own definition that works for me. So I'm a Christian without a fellowship, and have no one to tell me what I can and can't believe. But when I someday go back (because I do enjoy worship! :o), I will look specifically for one of those kinds of churches. No church that says hate/ostracize can be ok. Jesus just didn't preach that.
Nov. 9th, 2008 11:48 pm (UTC)
That was VERY well-put. I'm so proud of you, daughter mine.
Nov. 10th, 2008 11:47 am (UTC)
*beams happily and blushes*

Thank you, Mom! That means the world to me!
( 15 rays of sunshine — Be a ray of sunshine! )